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Published on October 25, 2004 By Cappy1507 In Politics
Im wondering what your views are on Insurance reform. I'm looking at some often ignored issues, that affect people everyday in this country that go ignored by most politicans. And I'm looking for other peoples input.

I live in South Western Pennsylvania. Our area was hit by recent flash floods from Hurricane Ivan. Many friends and neighbors were denied Flood insurance in our area over the last few years, and told they did not "need" it because they were not on flood plains. The recent flooding has caused some of those same people to lose their homes, businesses, and automobiles, and they have been unable to recover anything from their insurance companies because they were denied this coverage.

I have had personal experience with what I call Inverse Insurance fraud. My Automobile, an 1984 Mazda RX7 was totaled by a 59 year old drunk driver at 9AM while he was on his way to work! I paid an insurance premium of $175 a month for three years on the car. The model was sort of a collectors item, had 70,000 miles on it, and is known for it's reliablity and low maintenance and sells for about $2500, yet the insurance company paid me $210 for the totaled car, and would not budge on the figure. Taking them to court would have cost more than that, so I was forced to settle for that amount. I hadn't had an accident, or ticket in over 15 years. By my calculations I had paid almost $3600 to them over the 3 years I had that car. Even at $2500 they would have made a nice profit and kept a customer.

The insurance companies, seem to have carte blanc in this country and are one of the highest profit segments of the economy. Have Insurance companies gone unchecked too long? Does anyone else see this as a viable issue in future elections?

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on Oct 25, 2004
Oh dear when it comes to insurance it is always a headache. Every word in an isurance policy and contract has to be read carefully. You have to check for the amount of excesses and additional excesses and see if it's wothwhile after you pay your premium. You have to choose what you want to be insured for, and not be told oh you need insurance for this but not this. The customer is king and gets to decide what product he wants. The insurance companies are all different in matters of premiums, services, and products. It is up to the client to make the best choice. But nevertheless, insurance is a business, and it has to be profitable...
on Oct 25, 2004
PS: how can you get the gvt to regulate business in a liberal country?
on Oct 25, 2004
Yes, my parents had the same problem with homeowners insurance. They paid a particular insurance company faithfully for over 20 years on one house. They had two claims during the entire period totaling in about $200.00. They finally decided to sell the house off and buy their dream home, guess what, the same company they'd been with for 20 years wouldn't sell them homeowner's insurance for the new house, they had to go with steeper rates from someone else. It is my parent's opinion that it must have been for the two claims.

F*CKING RIDICULOUS, INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE OUT OF CONTROL!
on Oct 25, 2004
The customer is king and gets to decide what product he wants. The insurance companies are all different in matters of premiums, services, and products. It is up to the client to make the best choice. But nevertheless, insurance is a business, and it has to be profitable...


This is not true at least where I live the laws may be different where you live. But in PA Auto Insurance is manditory, not catistrophic fund here. And Homeowners insurance is manditory as well, even if you own your home outright I believe ( I may be wrong on this). I know you can not get a mortgage with out it.
on Oct 25, 2004
The customer is king and gets to decide what product he wants. The insurance companies are all different in matters of premiums, services, and products. It is up to the client to make the best choice. But nevertheless, insurance is a business, and it has to be profitable...


This is not true at least where I live the laws may be different where you live. But in PA Auto Insurance is manditory, not catistrophic fund here. And Homeowners insurance is manditory as well, even if you own your home outright I believe ( I may be wrong on this). I know you can not get a mortgage with out it.


You missed his point entirely. He didn't say it wasn't manditory. What he said is that the options are up to the customer. And even here in PA that holds true.
on Oct 25, 2004
Yes indeed, its true the mortgagee will loan you the money only if you have insurance and it becomes compulsory at that point. But like drmiler pointed out, you get to decide what options you want: like water & electricity damage in a property insurance or higher passengers liability for a taxi or whatever (By the way i'm a "she" not a "he" ). I only hope not all insurance companies are ripping people off, or what would insurance be for?
on Oct 25, 2004
The insurance companies, seem to have carte blanc in this country and are one of the highest profit segments of the economy. Have Insurance companies gone unchecked too long? Does anyone else see this as a viable issue in future elections?
Absolutely, I have long proclaimed insurance companies as the Robber Barons of the 20th and 21st centuries.
on Oct 25, 2004
how can you get the gvt to regulate business in a liberal country?
I trust you mean conservative country.
on Oct 25, 2004
Well, I'm going to take this opportunity to give my little auto insurance mini-rant.

One day a few months ago as I pulled out of a parking space (cars all lined up against the curb down a street near the elementary school, a car in front and behind me), I got too close and made an inch long scratch on the vehicle parked in front of me. I stopped and got out to look at the damage. The lady was standing beside her vehicle talking and came to look as well.

There was a one inch long white streak a few inches above the tire of her 2000 Dodge Ram pickup. I have never had a ticket. I don't speed. I've never had an accident. I was paying $114/mo in car insurance premiums, and had been with the same auto insurance company for nearly a decade. I held my breath, hoping she would tell me not to worry about it (that's what I would have done . . . I could have given her $20 to buy some paint to touch up the little streak with).

She decided to have my insurance company pay for it. Which is fine . . . not what I would have done for something so minor, but it was her right. That wasn't what was bad. What was bad was that because of her claim, my auto insurance went up $600/yr. $600!!! All because a tiny streak of white paint from my vehicle rubbed onto her blue pickup! Arrrrgh!

I apologize if I am carrying this way off topic . . . I have needed to bitch about this for a while now. Maybe it helps illustrate your point? If not, I apologize for the thread hijack . . .
on Oct 26, 2004
You missed his point entirely. He didn't say it wasn't manditory. What he said is that the options are up to the customer. And even here in PA that holds true.


I think I did miss what she was getting at, but still you cannot buy flood insurance for your home, if the Insurance company doesn't sell it to you. You have to be on a flood plain. I've talked about this with my agent when we bought my house, a few years ago. If there is no flood plain (10 year, 20 year 100 year flood plains) then they have no basis to price it, and will not sell it to you. Mine Subsidence is another one of those things. You have to be able to provide proof that your home is over a mine, long wall in particular in order to buy it. Why? Because if you don't have mine subsidence insurance and your home is destroyed or damaged by mine subsidence then the mining company is responcibile. If you have it the do not have to pay for damages, and the INS co cannot seek recouperitive damages. It's been a long day and I know my spelling is horrible tonight, I'm too tired to check it.

But it's looking like this may be an issue worth campaingning on.

on Oct 26, 2004
how can you get the gvt to regulate business in a liberal country?
I trust you mean conservative country.


In the same way the government regulates the telecommunication industry, the credit industry, and the collections industry via Acts.

The Fair Debt Collection practices Act
The Telecommunications Act of 1996
THE FAIR CREDIT REPORTING ACT